Red Pill Junkie – From Consumer to Producer

The man known as “Red Pill Junkie” has long been a mystery to me. He started commenting on the old UFOMystic site a few years ago with thought-provoking ideas and always seemed to move the discussion to a new level or make us aware of developments that were little-known at the time. Eventually, he caught the attention of bloggers and luminaries such as Micah Hanks and became a columnist and blogger in his own right.

The conversation was like talking to someone I had known for years, especially since we seemed to have been influenced by many of the same people and ideas. The talk veered from concepts of God to how legitimate the practice of channeling might be to the use of the Chupacabra mystery as a coverup for political corruption in Mexico.

As requested by RPJ, the show opens with part of a song called “El Aparato” by Cafe Tacuba, which is about a UFO abduction.

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20 Responses to Red Pill Junkie – From Consumer to Producer

  1. Red Pill Junkie says:

    Once again, thanks for inviting me, Greg. I admit I felt anxious prior to the interview –imagining the things you could ask me & what I could say as an answer, dreading the Internet connection might fail, etc– but then we started talking & I completely forgot this was being recorded πŸ™‚

    BTW during the show you asked me for my opinion on how UFOlogy might be able to move forward & what kind of developments I’d like to see. I’ve been giving it some thought and, beside the things I said last Sunday I’d like to add one more thing:

    I started commenting in English websites all these years ago because I thought –perhaps a bit arrogantly– that I could act as a bridge between the things happening on my side of the Rio Grande, and the folks interested in these topics that might not be able to learn about them due to the language barrier. Luckily for all of us though, Scott Corrales has been doing a phenomenal job disseminating Latin American UFO reports through his blog Inexplicata. Mucho Kudos to him!

    But why should Scott be the only one doing this? Why couldn’t it be someone like him doing the same for the UFO stories coming from China, Japan, Russia, Romania South Africa & Mozambique? It’s somewhat depressing to realize just how insular this field still is, and I wish something could be done about that

    English is still the Lingua Franca of the world, and the biggest percentage of content in the Internet is available in this language. If something like PORN is able to cross the language barrier on the Interwebz, why can’t UFOs do the same?? πŸ˜‰



    • Greg says:

      Probably because PRON needs no translation!

      Don’t sell yourself short. You can add a lot to a foreign perspective in addition to Scott C’s excellent work. The only other interview I have done with a researcher from outside the English-speaking world was with my friend Farah Yurdozu. I need to see how she is doing these days. A different cultural perspective is always welcome. What do people think of UFOs in India, Egypt, Germany?

      Can anyone suggest any researchers in these countries or anywhere else whom I can interview?

      We were very lucky with the connection and that there was only one siren, and that was at the very end! Talk to you in a couple of weeks when you return.

      • alanborky says:

        “Probably because PRON needs no translation!”

        Vomitin’ in each other’s mouths?

        Shovin’ gerbils fists bagpipes an’ skulls up each others arses?

        Russian gangsters wearin’ some ninety year old granny’s bootlaced vagina like a Davy Crockett ‘coon skin hat?

        Dear God Bishop Greg I at least need a translator t’point out t’me what part o’ any o’ that’s actu’ly sex!

  2. Michael says:

    Incredible show first and foremost. Secondly, what is the title of the podcast that you semi-frequently visit??? I searched iTunes for the names that were given but failed to find it. Looking forward to more episodes with RPJ…and as always, thanks for another great episode of Radio Misterioso Greg!!!

    • Greg says:


      Is that Binnall of America? I can’t think of any others that I have been on more than a couple of times.

      Thanks for your kind comments.

    • Red Pill Junkie says:

      The podcast is The Grimerica Show, and is both listed on iTunes & Stitcher.

  3. Greg says:

    Curt Collins, who has a great in-depth examination of the Cash-Landrum UFO case over at his page Blue Blurry Lines, took exception to me calling his site “skeptical” during this show. It IS skeptical, but it is not fundamentalist-skeptical. There is a distinct difference.

    • Red Pill Junkie says:

      Alas, such is the problem of closed-minded people having hijacked the term. I guess the same is true of atheism, with bigots like Richard Dawkins being the most vociferous ones, and giving the rest of them a bad rep.

  4. John Brazel says:

    Great interview, discussion, chat, b.s. session call it what you will; it was enjoyable, entertaining and thought provoking. RPJ has synthesized such a tremendous wealth of information on this subject he needs to a) come back often and b) start his own podcast. Thanks guys.

    • dia sobin says:

      Hear, hear! I agree. Great show… and RPJ has a very engaging voice. Seductive, one might say. Definitely would make a great radio-show host (although, admittedly, Greg’s pretty good, too…) ! πŸ˜‰

      • Red Pill Junkie says:

        It’s funny, because I’d always HATED the sound of my own voice πŸ˜‰

        • dia sobin says:

          A lot of people hate the sound of their own voices – especially recordings. I think it has something to do with the acoustics in our head when we hear ourselves talk as opposed to what our voice sounds like coming from outside our heads.

          In any case, you sound great in a recording… that’s the important thing. It’s like being photogenic… um, “acoustogenic”? πŸ˜‰

  5. mrs. eccentric says:

    What a wonderful show! David Schwab put it well on the Radio Misterioso Fbook page: ” Red Pill is brilliant and you two have great rapport.”

    I so enjoyed your discussion following my question, and the free-associated wide range of topics during the whole show. (I cracked up when Greg said: “No one cares about this stuff” when discussion tourists, money, born in california-ers……as you could have lifted that rant straight out of my born-in-Fresno mouth!)

    A couple of your comments brought to mind certain elements of my NDE. First, when RPJ spoke about the many accounts of high strangeness which may never come to light because they don’t fit into any of the established narratives for those type of experiences. I’ve had a handful of opportunities to contribute to NDE research in the form of filling out questionnaires and i’ve not done a single one. It’s because the structure of fill in the blanks, multiple choice and etc. questions, not to mention the assumptions behind the particular questions, were so radically in a different type of mind set or even universe from that in which my NDE (and my experience of it’s impact in my life afterwards) occurred that i couldn’t even begin to ‘fit’ my experience into the questionnaires. And from the ‘outside’ or materialist perspective my NDE was pretty standard – medical procedure performed as a last resort when i was desperately ill and in hospital went wrong, in convulsions for twenty minutes, brought back from the edge by overly prudent preparations by the doc, etc. So imagine the predicaments faced by people with even less standard occurrences.

    Don’t know if all that gets my point across, the short version is: “Agreed.”

    And Greg i loved that Alan Watts quote about consciousness being that which turns rocks in to human beings. It’s new to me, and captures part of what i soaked in during my NDE – which took place in what buddhists call the void. That space was just saturated in, boiling with, on the brink of exploding from the sheer overwhelming pressure of pure consciousness, unformed and perpetually teetering on the edge of becoming…..everywhere, all the time and in every speck and crack of all that is. It truly is the only game in town.

    I very much look forward to your next get together!! Happy Saturday All!! steph

    • Red Pill Junkie says:

      I’m glad the episode was to your satisfaction, Steph. After all, you were the main instigator for its fruition –and I shall ever be in your debt for it πŸ˜‰

      Your NDE account reminds me of one of the main stories popping out of the Fortean blogosphere this week: the (possible) deathbed vision celebrity film critic Roger Ebert might had on the week before his passing:

      “The one thing people might be surprised about β€” Roger said that he didn’t know if he could believe in God. He had his doubts. But toward the end, something really interesting happened. That week before Roger passed away, I would see him and he would talk about having visited this other place. I thought he was hallucinating. I thought they were giving him too much medication. But the day before he passed away, he wrote me a note: “This is all an elaborate hoax.” I asked him, “What’s a hoax?” And he was talking about this world, this place. He said it was all an illusion. I thought he was just confused. But he was not confused. He wasn’t visiting heaven, not the way we think of heaven. He described it as a vastness that you can’t even imagine. It was a place where the past, present, and future were happening all at once.”

      Despite how cryptic his words were, its plainly obvious to me that the ‘vastness’ faced by those few who venture to ‘the other side’ is… well… too damn VAST to be encapsulated into human language. Somehow that’s both comforting & disturbing at the same time πŸ˜‰

      And I guess that’s one of the things I appreciate the most about these pesky mysteries: that they push us to expand our vocabulary & increase our expectations πŸ™‚



  6. alanborky says:


    Can someone put me out me misery?

    That guy in the whiskey advert poster? I know his face but I can’t place it from where. I keep gettin flashes of ‘im almost as a lad in some TV show from the Sixties or maybe early Seventies where he’s someone’s sidekick. It’s not Daktari or Bonanza or High Chaparral or Voyage t’the Bottom o’ the Sea so what the hell is it an’ who the hell’s he?

    • Red Pill Junkie says:

      ‘Tis ‘The Most Interesting Man in the World’, who used to be in XX beer ads, but retired to become a full-time Internet meme πŸ˜‰

  7. Indridi I. Kaldtsen says:

    Yes, I thought it was a fine show as well, and a lot more interesting than say another interview with Richard Dolan. Hope that isn’t offensive. I though RPJ and Greg together displayed a vast knowledge that didn’t always overlap, so that there was an interesting learning/teaching process going on.

    • Red Pill Junkie says:

      Well I’d still like to meet Rich one of these days. Someone told me that he tends to curse like a Cossack when he’s not in front of a microphone, which tells me we’d get along famously πŸ˜‰

  8. Gary K. says:

    I have subscribed to your show for years. I like most episodes, but this was the kind of gem I will archive and could imagine offering to a friend who might express an interest in the topic. Here, we get a feeling for the depth, complexity of rumination, imagination, and level headedness that typify the best of those who have a longstanding interest in esoterica.

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