Norio Hayakawa has been part of the UFO/ conspiracy scene for over 20 years. In fact, he was becoming known in the community just as I was first writing about strange stuff. He has been in the thick of the Area 51 and Dulce underground base stories and personalities since before the beginning.
This night we talked about his involvement with the early personalities involved in these stories, such as John Lear, Bill Cooper, Ted Gunderson, and Anthony Hilder. Norio recalled his 1990 interview with Area 51 “whistleblower” Bob Lazar and the strange men who wouldn’t leave his side throughout the filming of a segment for Japanese television. He also noticed that Lazar’s home didn’t looked lived in, more like a movie set. This sounds very much like Lazar’s leaking of government secrets were highly scripted. Norio also mentioned that he first heard of Area 51 and the supposed Dulce base in a packet of reading material he requested from Bill Moore in 1988. We also discussed our experiences with a man named “Mike Younger” and our impressions of him as a disinfo agent. Much of what he did also seemed scripted and designed to create definite ideas and opinions.
Throughout the program, Norio stressed his agnostic approach. Like many others, he has found that interested non-belief is probably the best way to approach the UFO subject as well as so-called conspiracy issues. We also went into his background and bio since his immigration from his native Japan. I particularly liked his stories of working the night shift at a mortuary.
We ended with one of his original keyboard compositions entitled “Showdown At Dulce, New Mexico.”
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Jeffrey Gonzalez is the founder and director of the Sanger Paranormal Society (SPS), which investigates and documents all manner of strangeness in California’s Central Valley. If lights are hovering over your house, things are bumping in the night, or weird creatures are trying to carry off your chihuahua, SPS will investigate and document the disturbance, as well as offer any explanation that seems reasonable.
Jeffrey Gonzalez points to the area of his truck window where he believes a bigfoot-type creature left forensic evidence sometime between May 30 and June 1, 2011.
Burrow met Gonzalez in the foothills and took pictures of the markings on the window. At the conference, Burrow (while admitting that he is not a biologist or zoologist) offered the opinion that the apparent nose and lip marks did not seem to match those of a bear or mountain lion. Samples of the marks were taken for later analysis. Gonzalez later had the window removed for safe storage. He has not washed the truck since the incident, almost a month ago.
Robert Emenegger is one of those people in the background of the UFO subject that know a lot and don’t often tell. Emenegger emerged from the advertising and entertainment industry in the 1960s as a sharp and innovative mind. The United States Department of Defense took notice and asked him and his partner Alan Sandler to produce a few small films on contract. In 1971, they hit him with a bomb: would he like to produce a film on what the Government knew about UFOs and aliens? He would have the full cooperation of the Air Force and other agencies, and they also promised to provide film footage of an actual flying saucer landing at Holloman Air Force Base in New Mexico sometime in the 1960s.
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