Chris Aubeck – UFOs Throughout History

The old quote about those not knowing history who are doomed to repeat it is just as relevant to the study of UFOs as any other subject. For many years now, Chris Aubeck has been chronicling the history of strange objects seen in the sky to show that the phenomenon is much older and more pervasive than most people think.

Chris told me that the very term “flying saucer” was in common usage in the English-speaking world starting in the late 19th century. It referred to clay targets used for trap and skeet shooting, and he argues that the press had a ready-made phrase when Kenneth Arnold reported his sighting in 1947, and which may have affected preconceptions of witnesses and the press afterwords.

In 2003, Aubeck visited Dr. Jacques Vallée at a speaking date in Portugal and asked him to collaborate on a book he was going to call “Return To Magonia.” Vallée at first said “no,” but called him a few months later and agreed to co-author what would become Wonders In The Sky. The book examines reports of strange objects seen in in the sky from antiquity to the late 19th century and weeded out accounts that were hoaxes and misidentifications of natural phenomena by combing through historical records of people, places, weather, and astronomical data. A deluxe edition has been announced.

Since Wonders, Chris has co-authored two other volumes: OOPARTs: Ojetos Fuera De Su Tiempo (Things Out Of Time) (Spanish only) and Return To Magonia: Investigating UFOs In History. We talked about both books and how the use of historical records explained many events that have been attributed to paranormal, unearthly, or mysterious origins have turned out to be false or easily explainable. In Return, Aubeck and co-author Martin Shough picked a top 20 of UFO cases throughout history and found some that were explainable and others that remain unidentified.

Chris has lived in Spain since age 19 and we talked about the convoluted and sometimes harrowing series of events that led him to adopt that country as his home. His next project is an examination of the history of beliefs about extraterrestrial life.

A very fun and informative interview which I enjoyed thoroughly. I hope you will too.

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10 Responses to Chris Aubeck – UFOs Throughout History

  1. Adam Gorightly says:

    great show bro

  2. JD says:

    So, have enjoyed listening to a number of your interviews, but there appears to be no link to the interview on this page. I have to search for “Aubeck” on the sidebar and then listen from the jump/search result. (Not all of us like having dozens of iTunes subscriptions.) Please remedy this problem going forward as many of your permalinks contain…no interviews at all!

  3. John Randall says:

    Excellent discussion. The whole “Flying Saucer” phrase harkening back to trap shooting was a real WTF moment and got me thinking about not only the shape of the clay traps but also the trajectory of the traps “mimic” some of the moments of many of the “FS”reported(” it was up close then zoomed away”). Found this logo online and if you switch out Trap Shooting and replace it with UFO it could be the cover of a UFO journal. 🙂

  4. PurrlGurrl says:

    Great show!

  5. burnt state says:

    This was an excellent episode. Aubeck’s research is really critical work for the field in terms of measuring the phenomenon through key incidents. The stories i found most appealing were those ones that conceptually defied the language of the time. A good UFO report should defy language as then it requires creativity to both interpret and integrate it into our present. Like your Burroughs’ quote the ufo cuts into the present so we can see some of the future leak out.

  6. Phil From Lunopolis says:

    If I may borrow a currently unused thread…

    I saw this today:

  7. R. A. says:

    This show was excellent!

    I do have one small quibble. Mr Aubeck says theories of paleocontact are mostly based on the idea that ancient humans were too primitive to have made some of the relics attributed to them, and that such ideas are basically just racism.
    But let’s not forget that many of these cultures actually say that “teacher gods” visited their ancestors in the deep past and brought them knowledge and civilization. That is my primary reason for giving Ancient Alien theories at least some credence. I’m not saying “they were too primitive”, I’m saying “this is what they say happened”. Perhaps it might be considered a bit racist to just dismiss their versions of their histories?

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