After the mysterious recording failure during our first interview with Ray, we promised to have him back to give the listeners the rest of his story. Stanford’s adult life and experience spans nearly the entire modern history of the UFO subject.
We started off with Stanford’s memories of government infiltration of and MIB-like activity associated with one of his early civilian UFO groups, including a possible murder attempt and his own early UFO sightings and questions he was asked about them by government officials.
My co-host (and former AFOSI agent) Walter Bosley gets into a heated debate with Stanford about the capabilities of the government to disinform researchers and efforts to cover up secret projects with UFO stories. In the interest of being fair to both parties in a discussion which seemed at a standstill, we moved on to Stanford’s work on Project Starlight. The effort was a research project designed to track and photograph UFOs which was active near the Austin, Texas area in the mid-1970s.
After the break, Stanford spoke about his memories of contactee Howard Menger, and his analysis of Menger’s photographs of spacebrothers and flying saucers, which he thinks were faked. He went on to talk about his theories for the origin of intelligences behind the UFO enigma.
We end with Stanford’s newest endeavour as an amateur palentologist and his many discoveries of dinosaur tracks, some of which are making the trip to the Smithsonian Institute for study and display.